DNA Test Results

latest update 14 Oct 2024
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DNA testing has revolutionized family research.

There are privacy issues with these tests however, after consideration, I decided to go ahead. In August 2017 I took the Ancestry.com DNA test. Simply spit into the test tube, post it away and wait. The results consist of an ethnicity estimate and a list of other clients you share an ancestor with. The ethnicity estimate represents the period between 500 and 1000 years ago they say.

I prepared for unexpected results. There were some small but no large surprises. It mostly confirms  the research I have to date. Family members I knew topped the list and others below are relatives, some of who I know through my research. Beyond that several people appeared the family did no know, and I noticed some branches not appearing at all. Fairly normal I understand.

As of mid 2024 Ancestry.com has tested about 25 million individuals.

Many more distant connections seem to go back to the Irish and Scots diasporas in Australia and North America; generations before reliable records can be found.

Later, curiosity saw me testing with 23andMe, MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA. My understanding is these three companies, along with Ancestry, have most of the DNA market. Each has different and evolving client base and ethnicity algorithms, thus some variations. There were no wild differences. The FamilyTreeDNA test included Y-DNA and mtDNA results. These extra tests provided only ancient and academic information.

DNA matches going back more than 5 generations (i.e. usually before 1800) show many diverse results. Many for these matches show connection to more than one ancestor. It is suggested that small farming communities saw many first, second and more distant cousins marrying and thus sharing grandparents to some level. This is suggested when a DNA match shares several matching segments. Building or confirming a family tree becomes next to impossible.


Ancestry August 2017 results

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Ancestry September 2018 .. refined calculations.

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Ancestry 2019 estimate.
Some more fine tuning.


2019


Ancestry 2020 Estimate.
More fine tuning.


2020 DNA Ethnicity form
          Ancestry

Ancestry 2021 Update
A little less Irish and a little more Scots.


DNA
          2021



Ancestry 2022 Update
Seems England & Northwestern Europe have disappeared
Family history research indicate 30% English background so some further divergence with DNA results

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Ancestry have also provided an estimate of parental ethnicity in 2022
We have to guess which one is which.
I am confident Parent 1 below is the paternal side

Inheritance DNA

Ancestry update July 2022.
Slightly more Scots and towns in Ireland noted


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Ancestry update Oct 2023
Very minor change.
 Expected English ancestry still not present


Ancestry DNA 2023



Ancestry update October 2024
As you can see Sweden is added at 2%; only a minor change.
Irish and Scots connections are well established
The mystery of where are our English roots remains.
My Andrews, Haskell, Straker and Holland lines are confirmed (by DNA) with clear English heritage.
My Hayhoe (also British) connection remains elusive.
The search continues..

Ancestry 2024





My Heritage Ethnicity Estimate May 2023

Ethnicity Estimate







FamilyTreeDNA Ethnicity Summary 2021

FTDNA Tree



23andMe ethnicity results 2021
(Love the hint of ancient Egypt, cueing The Bangles))
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All GG Grandparents emigrated to Australia from the UK or Ireland in the 1800s.

Name
Origin
Birth
John Andrews
Verwood, Dorset, England   **Y-DNA Ancestor
1801
Bridget Tracey
Ballinasloe, Galway, Ireland
1819
John Straker
York, England
1815
Mary Ann Boyd
Dublin, Ireland
1822
Thomas Hanrahan
Clare, Ireland
1820
Cecilia Manley
Mayo, Ireland
1835
Patrick O'Hara
Tipperary, Ireland
1837
Margaret Murphy
Queens, (Laois) Ireland
1839
Joseph Holland
North Rode, Cheshire, England
1829
Bridget Cassidy
Belturbet, Caven, Ireland
1831
Daniel Clarke
Mallow, Cork, Ireland
1831
Margaret Maroney
Clare, Ireland
1831
James Buck Hayhoe
North Elmham, Norfolk, England
1806
Susan Whatley
North Elmham, Norfolk, England
1807
Ross Davidson
Port Glasgow, Scotland
1816
Esther Ross
Edderton, Ross, Scotland   **mtDNA Ancestor
1822


So nine Irish(57%), five English(31%) and two Scots(12%) ancestors.
This remains at odds with my Ancestry DNA results showing little or no English heritage.


Autosomal DNA

Autosomal DNA tests cover all family relationships in the not too distant past (500-1000years they say).
Ancestry provide the maps above and identifies close matches (if the person so desires)
I have made some progress in pushing the tree back a generation or so.


FamilyTreeDNA Y-DNA Result.

My Haplogroup is R-M269

Haplogroup R-M269 is the sub-clade of human Y-chromosome haplogroup R1b.
 My paternal line goes back to Thomas Andrews from Dorset, England in the 1700s.
No useful information on my specific tree has been found.
23andMe say my haplogroup is R-Z12, descending from R-M269.
Image from FamilyTreeDNA.
Paternal
          Line


FamilyTreeDNA mtDNA Result.

My Haplogroup is H15a1

My maternal line leads back to Esther McKay Ross from Rossshire in the Scottish highlands
Interesting but nothing added to my tree.
Image from FamilyTreeDNA.
FTDNA Maternal Haplogroup


Ancient DNA

The website Gedcom.com has a table of ancient DNA profiles from archeological excavations around the world.
From a long list my DNA showed a stronger match to about nine samples.


Rathlin1, Ireland
~4000 years ago
Ballynahatty, Ireland
~5000 ago
Bichon, Switzerland
13600 ago
O4, Oaklington, Cambridgeshire,  Link2
~400-545 AD
LBK, Stuttgart Link2 Link3
~7000 ago
Loschbour, Lux
~8000 ago
BR2, Hungary
~1200BC
NE1, Hungary
~7200 ago
Ust-Ishim, Siberia
~45,000 ago


General links to Wikipedia

Genetic history of Europe
Prehistoric Britain
Historical immigration to Great Britain