The
family story is that Thomas Hanrahan was employed as a
gardener by James Manley in Mayo, Ireland and that
Thomas eloped with James' daughter Cecilia. Thomas,
born in Clare Ireland, was 42 and Cecilia, born in
Mayo, was 17. They married in Bradford, England
in 1853-55. Several children followed and they emigrated
to Australia arriving in Melbourne in 1860. The Irish
Potato Famine was coming to an end about this time
but may still be relevant. Cecilia Hanrahan
The death certificate
shows the parents of Thomas to be Michael Hanrahan and
Bridget Harer, both farmers. I have searched the
available records from Clare and could find no
reference to them. (Note that many parish records were
lost in a fire in Dublin in the 1920s..) Recent (2023) DNA
matches list a Nora Hanraran (sic)
born 1820 Cloonlaheen, Clare, Ireland.
She married Hugh Talty and their daughter
Margaret married Patrick Leary (O'Leary ).
Other distant DNA matches include the Talty and
O'Leary names. Cecilia’s parents are
equally elusive. Her death certificate (in 1900), with
son John as the informant, shows her parents as Thomas
Michael Minneby (surname difficult to read), a
butcher, and mother Cecilia. This contrasts with the
certificate from her second marriage (in 1880, see
below) which shows her parents as James Manesy (again
difficult reading), a farmer and Honora M..
(difficult). Other references and family recollections
have her surname as Manly or Manley. Each document
agrees she came from Mayo. From the marriage
certificate I note she signed with "her mark", a
cross, indicating she could not write. I have decided
to record the parents as James Manley and Honora until
more detail is available. Much of the
data is contradictory. This may be due
to the fact that Cecilia was underage and/or Thomas
was already married and they did not want to be
traced. Or maybe I have mixed two families? See the very interesting emails below and understand the difficulties in trying to link a family tree together. Looking through the
Griffith Valuations and Tithe Applotment Books (Land
Tax Records for the early to mid 1800s) shows two
Manly entries and two Manley entries in Mayo. Another
entry found was a James Manley of Clovnglasna (maybe
Cloonglasney), in the Parish of Ardagh, Tirawley,
Mayo. This is about 3 miles from Ballina near Lough
Conn and the River Deel. Subsequent research in 2007
has failed to find the above entry (I did not document
the original source) but I did find and entry in
Griffith's for Mullany, James , Cloonglasney Ardagh
Mayo. Later information
revealed Cecilia's both older and younger brothers
were born at Massbrook, Mayo. Massbrook is at the
southern end of Lough Conn, not that far from
Cloonglasney. Both are small hamlets. The various Manley certificates I
have to hand are reproduced on a separate page. Map link http://www.mayolibrary.ie
Thomas and Ceclia’s
first child, John Patrick Hanrahan, was born in
Bradford Yorkshire in 1856. A search of the St
Catherine’s Index of births in England has been
unsuccessful. I searched for their
names among the shipping and assisted immigrant lists.
A family was found on the ship Lord Ragland arriving
Melbourne 1860. Aboard were Thomas Hanrahan aged 26,
Honora Hanrahan aged 20 and John Hanrahan an infant.
The names, ages and dates do not fit exactly.. Distant cousin Kylie M.
came up with this alternate possibility. ...I
found Mary Ann Hanrihan christened on the 5th April
1858 at Saint Mary of the Angels in Geelong on
family search site - so going off that information I
have started looking at shipping lists for earlier
than I had and I found A family that could be them
on Arthur the Great that arrived in Geelong on 4
june 1856 .... Thomas(30),Cicily(26),John(2) and
Hannah(infant)? Maybe as hard to read. Last name is
Handcock ? Again hard to read.
I also purchased Mary's birth cert from 1876 to
triple check all names etc lol of the children ...
that states that Thomas and Cecilia were married 10th
August 1855 in Yorkshire.......It was actually Handrican the name,sorry lol.On Family Search under Victoria Assisted Arrivals page 1907 /8/9/10.... It appears that Thomas
worked as a labourer in Melbourne’s southern suburbs
and I assume mixed in the Irish Catholic community.
Cecilia is said to have borne fourteen children of
which seven survived infancy. In 1872 the family’s
address was the corner of Duke and Hornby St.,
Windsor. Later it seems they moved to the Morang area,
about 30 km to the North of Melbourne. In 1877, at
Morang, Thomas died at 65 years of age. He was buried
in the St Kilda cemetery with some of the infant
children. A gravestone, near the main gate on the
right, remains there today.
Via Trove, thanks Pam
Gawith Research by distant
cousin Joe reveals that the second child Honora later
used the name Annie. She married Thomas Jones in 1873
and died in 1891. The death certificate indicated four
children that did not survive infancy. Janefield is now called Bundoora, an outer Melbourne suburb; then it was rural. Coincidentally the Miller family operated a large horse property known as Mill Park in the area.. The ceremony was performed at St Elms, Heidelberg; witnesses at the wedding were John Hanrahan and Honnora Jones. Later Michael & Cecilia show an address at Murphy St., Elsternwick. She died at New St., Elsternwick in Aug 1900. There were no known children of this union. from the Melbourne Argus 30 August 1900 MURRAY.-On the 28th August, at her late
residence, Linden, New-street, Elsternwick, in
her 66th year, beloved wife
of Michael Murray, and beloved mother
of John, Thomas, Michael, James,
Cecelia, Patrick Hanrahan,
Mrs. J. Munro. R.I.P Children of Thomas and Cecilia
John Hanrahan and Mary O’Hara married in 1884 ..see below Michael Hanrahan, the third son of Thomas & Cecilia is remembered by the family as working as a chauffeur, for Septimus Miller at his property, "Cantala", in Caulfield. Leo Andrews recalled Uncle Mick organizing a family gathering at the property. James Hanrahan Argus
10 July 1917 "May his soul rest in peace." His son Phillip is remembered by the family for being a "steeplejack", and involved in horse training. |
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Brighton Victoria, 1861, Patrick O'Hara married
Margaret Murphy. Both Irish, Patrick, a labourer, came
from Tipperary; Margaret came from Queens or Kilkenny.
Patrick's death certificate shows his name as O'Hara and parents as Michael O'Hara, farmer and Johanna Dwire. The marriage record shows Patrick Hoare; which I assume is a spelling variation; and the parents as Michael Hoare and Johana Dwyer. Both documents agree on the birth place as Tipperary. Searching Irish records has been unsuccessful, however some possibilities exist in the shipping records. Patrick died in 1864 aged 28. The certificate noted that he was an out-door patient of the Melbourne Hospital. Margaret Murphy
came from Kilkenny according to her marriage
certificate and Queens according to her daughter's
birth certificate. Her parents are noted as Denis
Murphy, farmer and Catherine Fogarty. The
informant of Patrick's death was "Joseph Murphy,
brother-in-law". Patrick and Margaret had a son,
Michael who died at 3 months and a daughter, Mary
O'Hara. A search for Joseph's records may be useful. |
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Mary O’Hara married John
Hanrahan in 1884 in Elsternwick. They raised a
family of eight in their home at 69 Murphy Street,
Elsternwick. John’s occupation is listed as contractor.
He died in 1922; Mary died at 105 Head St, Elsternwick
in 1929. I know little more about the family than this. The children of John & Mary Hanrahan ....
Joe and Paul Dinon enlisted in the Australian Army in WW2. Paul enlisted in the RAA and
served in the Heavy Battery, Rabaul (Coastal Battery).
He was taken prisoner and perished while being shipped
to Japan aboard the Montevideo Maru. It was sunk in
the South China Sea by the USS Sturgeon on 1 July
1942. They did not know it was a prison ship. See
Wikipedia for details. See also National
Archives of Australian record
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Mary-Ann
HANRAHAN and Albert William
ANDREWS were married at St Mary’s, St Kilda East in
1910. Both the Andrews and Hanrahan families came from the
Brighton, Elsternwick area. Albert was a clerk and, at one
time, was employed by a Real Estate firm. The marriage was
against the wishes of Mary-Ann’s parents. The marriage ran
into difficulties and Mary-Ann and Albert separated and
finally divorced in 1925.
Seven children Lance, Kathleen, John (Jack), Eleanor (Nellie or Nin) Jean, Leo, and William (Bill) followed. Leo Andrews vaguely remembers, aged about four, living in Ripponlea. Then he remembers living in Hurstbridge, then two different houses in Diamond Creek, and then back to New St. Brighton. Mary-Ann was struggling with her health and the young children. From time to time she could not look after all the children and the older ones were put into care for a year or so. Lance & Jack went to St Vincent de Paul’s orphanage and the girls, Kathleen, Nelly & Jean, to the Abbotsford Convent. The following is from conversations with Leo Andrews in 1994. After the initial move to the Hurstbridge area we moved back to Brighton. Although a year older, Bill and I were enrolled together in school at St James, (Gardenvale). Then the family moved to St Kilda, and then to Punt Road, Windsor, and then to rooms in Greville St. Auntie Ann (Maguire) Hanrahan possibly owned this. There we attended the local schools. Subsequent moves were to Greensborough, Eltham, back to Greensborough, then Highett St. Richmond. Next back to Greensborough, into four different places including a place in Flintoff Street. In 1935, after our mother had died we shifted down to a boarding house in South Yarra. This was not successful and then we rented a house in Trinian St. We stayed here until Lance married. He stayed on at Trinian St and the rest of us moved to board with Mrs Tomasetti in Northcote Road Armidale, moving out as we got married. Mrs Tom was a very nice person, putting up with us boys and our motor bikes without a complaint. We had two horses when we lived in Greensborough, one was a very old horse and the other, an ex race horse, we got from Uncle Jack (Hanrahan). We did not have a saddle when we used to ride the ex racehorse. It would go hard and then you couldn't stop it. It would go like mad and you were not strong enough to stop it. One day we fell off and the horse went home without us. When we moved back to town the horses went up to Eltham; we must have given them to someone. Mum would travel from Eltham to Brighton where she worked as a domestic. There was no social security in those days. One day she did not have enough money for a train fare to go to work. We collected wild flowers from the bush and sold them by the road to St Helena. We collected 2/- and the fare was only 1/3. Mum was most upset, she did not know we were doing it. We would pick mushrooms and later on Bill & I would make a little money picking blackberries on a Saturday. We lived in six different houses altogether in Greensborough. They were going to open a new school at Briar Hill. And we went there on the very first day it opened. Bill and I went there, Lance and Jack were still in the home and came up there later. This was the first time I can remember we were all together as a family. With all the moves we went to Briar Hill school three times altogether. From there we went on to Collingwood Tech travelling daily by train. In 1934 Mary-Ann passed away at home in Flintoff St. Greensborough. She had a long term heart condition. Albert attended the funeral but did not stay in contact with the family. The older children, Lance and Kathleen, became the guardians of the younger ones. Lance, the oldest would have been about 22 and Bill, the youngest about 12. Support came from their mother's younger sister Alice. |
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Dear Peter; |
| Thanks Ted, Interesting story; cannot find anybody named Took in the family tree. Maybe the Hanrahans were serial elopers... Cheers |
| Subject:
Hanrahan, Manley families Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2001 I enjoyed reading
your account of Thomas Hanrahan and Cecilia Manley
on your website. The interesting part for me
was that Thomas and Cecilia eloped from County
Clare Ireland and went to England and then
Australia. My GGGGrandmother Margaret
(Mulqueen) Hanrahan emigrated to Saratoga county
New York State about 1857 (from somewhere in the
Limerick or Clare area) with 5 boys. The
father of her children was listed as Thomas
Hanrahan and she was listed on her gravestone as
the wife of Thomas. Thomas and Margaret's
boys were John (b. about 1836), Patrick, Thomas,
James, and the 5th boy, I recently
discovered, was not Margaret's child at all but
the son of Thomas and another woman (either Mary
Relileau or Bridget Madigan). The reason I
suspect it may have been Bridget Madigan is that a
listing on Kathyrn McCarthy's website for
Kilcolman parish baptisms lists Thomas
Hanrahan and Bridget Madigan as parents of Michael
Hanrahan in 1847 with Margaret Mulqueen as a
sponsor. Well you can probably tell by know
that I suspect my Thomas and your Thomas may well
be the same man. I have found no records of
what happened to him. If you have any
information on Thomas' earlier life, I's certainly
be interested in hearing from you. |
| Thank you Bob Is this our Thomas? The dates match well; the "modus operandi" may match as well. The records say he was from Clare and Cecilia from Mayo. We have assumed he was working in Mayo at the time of elopement but no other indication of movement are available. |
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Subject: Re: The Hanrahan & Manley Families, England, Ireland & Australia From: "REED" ... Date: 4 Feb 2002 My great-grandmother was also called Cecilia MANLEY. She was b. in Bishop Auckland in northern England in 1883, the penultimate of 11 (5surviving) children of Anthony Manley by his second wife Kate SOLAN. The Manley and Solan families were both immigrants from Ireland to Bishop Auckland in the years immediately following the Great Famine, the Solans from somewhere in Co Galway in the Spring of 1854 (RC Church bapt. register) and the Manleys at some date prior to the 1851 census from Co Mayo (family lore says the Ballina area thereof.) Now for the interesting part. The 1851 census shows my great-great-grandfather Anthony aged 17, masons labourer and younger brother James 12, ditto, both living with their elder sister Ellen LYNCH, 28, and her husband Patrick LYNCH, 32, glazier. Patrick was b. in Sunderland, Co Durham, ENG, all the Manleys in Ireland. There is no sign of any parents or of any other siblings and my great-grandmother was never willing to talk about her father's origins, leaving the unstated idea that he was a Famine orphan ... but was he? The marriage cert. for Anthony's first marriage to Margaret CONROY in 1855 fails to list his father, and no mention is made in the PRs either BUT, we are luckier with the second marriage to my gg-gm Kate Solan, as Anthony's father is given as James Manley, farmer, dec'd. OK, so far we both have a James Manley, farmer, Ballina and two Cecilias. Now I don't have proof of my Anthony's mother's name BUT, given that both he and James named their eldest son and daughter James and Honora, I am fairly confidant that Honora it was and so there's another 'coincidence' in these two stories. Is your Cecilia in fact a missing sib. of my Ellen, Anthony and James?? Can we EVER prove it?! I gather you haven't been able to find Cecilia's 1855 marriage in the GRO index? Presumably she's mistranscribed as something else. You have presumably checked under Hanrahan too? Have you tried sending to the DRO in Bradford giving names and the Sep Qr of 1855 plus a likely church (I think St Patrick's, Sedgefield Terrace/Westgate would be the only RC church in the town in 1855) to see what they can come up with? Cecilia is such an unusual name that I've often wondered where my gg-gps got it from ... all their other daughters were apparently named after their mother's sisters, though names like Ann, Elizabeth and Mary/Maria are hardly out of the ordinary C19 Irish names, are they?! As for Griffiths ... I'd discounted that James nr. Ballina as my ggg-gf because I was assuming (as per Great Grandma's intimation) that he'd died in the Famine and Griffiths wasn't undertaken until the mid 1850s I think! BUT ... if he didn't die, then it does look likely. I'll see which RC parish covers that township and whether any PRs survive. If they do, there's a good chance they're on LDS film as the Mayo coverage is amongst the best in IRL. Best wishes, Thanks for tacking
me down and getting in touch after all this time. ------------------------------------------------------------------- And again Aug 2007
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| Thank you David, The family names, birthdates and locations match fairly well. The family has had an (overly?) romantic image of a young Cecilia leaving behind a comfortable life and running away to the new world with her lover. The Famine puts this into a new light. |
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Morning: I may be related to you through Cecilia and also Drew Reed. My great grandfather was Patrick Joseph Manley born in Ballina, County Mayo in 1841. I recently found an extensive obituary for him and learned a few facts about his origins. He left Ireland while young after the famines and was one of four children raised by an older sister. They settled in Eastern England in Stamford and latter he was a grocer and prominent citizen in Peterborough. None of the family shows in the English census until 1861. According to Patrick's marriage certificate in 1878 his father's name was John who was a traveler or hawker. I found a death certificate for a John Manley in Stamford who was also a traveler and hawker. I think he is the same man. He was born in 1791 There was also a John Manley on the voter registration in Ballina in 1850. A John Manly (sic) appears as a renter of two properties in Ballina in the 1847-1856 period. It is possible they are the same person. However the first John Manley owned property and could vote. I am not sure about the difference in Manly vs Manley as the spelling. Dominick Manley was also from Ireland and lived in Stamford. He was also a hawker, traveler and a tea dealer. My great grandfather was apprenticed to a tea dealer and this was the business he had as a grocer. I tend to think Dominick was an uncle. He remarried in England in 1853. He was born in about 1804. His father's name was Patrick Manley, a farmer. I can image a scenario where Dominick is widowed and has lost children, he has some connecting to selling tea and uses them to locate employment in England. He can take a bigger risk not having a wife and children. John Manley sells his property in Ballina but lives on it for awhile and that provides money for resettling. My 1861 my great father was apprenticed to a tea dealer and in a few years had his own place. An interesting point is that a visitor to Patrick Joseph Manley's house in the 1901 census is listed as Anthony Manley. The only details are that he was born in Ireland around 1836, was a widower and a hawker. He could be an older brother. Northern England and Peterborough are not that far apart. Is he one of the four sibs mentioned in the obituary? I have wondered if he is the same Anthony Drew Reed mentions. Some points argue against this. He would have been counted in two places in the census that year. Perhaps it is not impossible. I tend to think my bunch had some business involvment before moving to Britan. In the pictures I have of Patrick Manley he looks like the emperor of Austria or the Czar of Russia in his official ceremonial garb. I have ordered the LDS records Catholic records for Ballina and will be looking for details as to the above relationships. Patrick Manley had a terrible temper and his sons got as far away as they could from England. Two came to the US including my grandfather, another went to Ontario, Canada, another to Kenya and the youngest to Sydney, Australia. He was Louis Herbert Manley 1893 - 1964 and had two wives and no children. He was in Australia by 1917. He did not write and it was though he was killed in WWI. He may have been a vet however although I have been unable to find a record of that. Perhaps you can forward this to Drew Reed. Do you have any suggestion on getting an obit for Louis Herbert Manley. I have a copy of his death certificate. I have been told that the records in Ballina for Catholic families go back no further than 1823. It's okay for me if that is all there it. It is enough to have found a location in Ireland at all. Yours, Paul Manley Alameda,California ...and an extract from a follow up email.... ...I have set three goals
in this research. First, find out where the
family came from in Ireland. Second, locate
living descendents in Britain. I had suspected
Reed was one of two families the Manley
daughters married around the time of WWI. Now I
know where it fits. Third, look into my
grandfather's younger brother James
F Manley or Jim Manley. He was a big
game hunter in Kenya from the time of WWI until
independence in 1963. I have copies of his
correspondence with Ernest Hemingway and located
two groups of letters he wrote to the US side of the
family. I suspect there is another group of
letters out there. He had a business
partnership with Baron Blixen of out of "Out
of Africa". He is a very colorful relative....
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| ...More extracts for Paul Manley November
2009.. Hi Peter Hope you are well. It
has been about two years since I was in touch with you
regarding finding Manley ancestors in County Mayo
. I wanted to include you in a message I sent to
several others looking into Manley history. I have
found the answers to many of the questions I had
two years ago and which your posted on your web
site. My Anthony Manley is still a mystery but
he lived in Derby in the 1860’s and then vanished only
to reappear living in Nazareth House – a home for
elderly Catholic poor in Oxford where he died in
1917. He left 3 three living daughters. My
grandfather’s brother Jim Manley who was in the Boer
War, WWI, WWII and the Mau Mau emergency and a white
hunter in colonial Kenay died in his sleep in 1969 and
lies buried with his wife in the Langata Cemetery in
Nairobi. I found two lines of second-cousins in
England and a third one in Stockholm who remains a
British citizen. She has many of the older
family photos I had found a link to a
specific street in Ballina. Another Australian
who visited there this month and I may be distant
relatives. Working with others we sorted out the
Munnelly lines in Crossmolina. I think I have
hit the limit on research at this point and can’t
really justify much more time in this project.
For this reason I wanted to update you before my
memory bank starts failing. Oh, I seems very very likely
that the Manleys or Munnellys were a branch of the
O’Doherty clan who migrated to County Mayo at the time
of O’Doherty’s Revolt in 1609. Many O’Dohertys
and others were forced to leave Ulster after the
revolt failed and migrated to the western part of
County Mayo . That’s the summary of what is
known. Peter, take a look at the end
of what follows. There are records for
several Hanrahans in Bradford – they must be
your bunch. Dear Manley Researchers: Greetings to all. I want to bring to your attention a few developments. Marybeth Van Winkle of Scranton , PA has worked very hard transcribing the birth, marriage and death records from the LDS microfilm of the parishes of County Mayo . Over the past year she has forwarded me findings regarding the Munnelly – Monnelly – Manley group. Recently, she began putting her transcriptions on-line at this location http://irishhereandthere.yolasite.com/ For now, she has parts of Kilmoremoy - Ballina and Crossmolina . She plans to put up more parishes in the future. By looking at the data some patterns emerge. There seems to be a pattern of sponsors being a brother or sister of the bride or groom. I read in one book that generally a marriage took place at the bride’s parish or townland. I not am not an expert, so take it for what it is worth. The second item concerns the beta site for Civil Registration beginning in 1864 which is now available here http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start I believe obtaining birth
marriage and death certificates or copies of them is
now possible through Dublin using the indexes on the
site. I recommend giving it a look. It is
interesting to see that Monnelly is used mainly in
Ballina registrations but not found in
Bellmullet. Who knows why? Another interesting find is
research on the McGinley clan. Particularly
interesting is the migration of some of the McGinleys
from their homeland in Donegal to County Meath and
County Mayo . The migration to western County
Mayo took place around the same time as an off-shoot
of the O’Doherty clan is believed to have also moved
and became known as Munnellys. I find it
interesting that the author thinks there may have been
two migrations to County Mayo . I wonder if there were
two Munnelly migrations, one before O’Doherty’s
Rebellion and one afterwards. The McGinley
homeland in Donegal is just west of the O’Doherty
lands on the Inishowen peninsula. It is the anvil
shaped piece of land directly above “ Londonderry ” in
the map below. The McGinley lands are directly west. (..map missing..) There are some interesting pictures in the section on “Native Clothing” and descriptions of housing around 1600 in the section on “ Clan Territory ”. The section on “Special Places” contains some good pictures of Donegal. The BBC site below contains some interesting interviews with historians regarding the context of the Plantation of Ulster. http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/british/plantation/index.shtml I have been interested in the migration of people from County Mayo to England around the time of the famine because my own group went there. Using the Civil Registration index in England I was able to follow the evolution of the name Munnelly and its variants to Manley beginning with the earliest registration in 1837. What is apparent is that migration was underway before the famine. I found that historians have noted seasonal migration from County Mayo to work the harvest in England . As the Fall or Autumn was traditionally a slack time in Ireland it was an opportunity for people to make money. The cost by ship to Liverpool was 2 shillings. As early as 1850 migrant workers were travelling by train to Lincolnshire in the east of England . This was the area my group lived in at that same time. It is possible to find when and where some of the group arrived in England by looking for those who did not change their name to Manley. Here are the results of checks for Munley, Munnelly, Monnelly, Monelly and Monely respectively in most of England or Lancashire and Yorkshire (The industrial north of the country including Liverpool, Leeds and Manchester ) I think use of theo lder forms dropped off pretty soon. I found a man using both Manly and Manley. Munley FreeBMD 1838 -1870 Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Dec 1840 MUNLEY Elizabeth Grantham 14 289 Lincohonshire and Leicestershire Marriages Dec 1840 MUNLEY Mary Liverpool 20 165 Deaths Jun 1842 MUNLEY Edward Manchester 20 477 Marriages Mar 1852 Munley Winifred Leeds 9b 518 Marriages Mar 1853 MUNLEY Patrick Leeds 9b 526 MUNLEY Patrick Leeds 9b 626 Births Jun 1853 Munley Mary Liverpool 8b 214 Births Jun 1854 MUNLEY William Stockton 10a 67 Marriages Jun 1854 MUNLEY Richard Shoreditch 1c 440 London Marriages Dec 1855 MUNLEY Mary Leeds 9b 504 Births Dec 1856 Munley Margaret Berwick 10b 287 Durham Births Mar 1857 Munley Samuel John Redruth 5c 299 Cornwall Births Jun 1858 Munley John Liverpool 8b 118 Deaths Mar 1860 Munley Thomas Leicester 7a 143 Marriages Jun 1860 Munley Jane Tiverton 5b 755 Devon Munnelly 1838 -1860 Births Sep 1850 Munnelly Ann Liverpool 20 308 Births Jun 1859 Munnelly John Liverpool 8b 97 Marriages Jun 1859 Munnelly Martin West Derby 8b 692 Munnelly Martin W Derby 8b 698 Monnelly 1838 -1860 Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Dec 1849 Monnelly Hannah Liverpool 20 188 Deaths Sep 1853 Monnelly Thomas W Derby 8b 222 Births Jun 1858 Monnelly Bernard Birmingham 6d 127 Births Jun 1860 MONNELLY John Liverpool 8b 77 Monelly 1838-1860 Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Marriages Jun 1840 MONELLY Anthony Liverpool 20 283 Deaths Sep 1852 MONELLY Mary Ann Birmingham 6d 55 Monely 1838-1860 Births Jun 1838 Monely Francis Bolton 21 100 Deaths Mar 1840 MONELY Francis Bolton 21 108 West Yorkshire 1838 -1871 Deaths Jun 1847 Manly John Halifax 22 210 Births Sep 1847 Manly John Halifax 22 265 Deaths Sep 1848 Manly Timothy Halifax 22 132 Deaths Dec 1850 MANLY John Halifax 22 145 Marriages Mar 1853 MANLY Ellen Bradford Y 9b 226 Births Mar 1856 MANLY Elizabeth Halifax 9a 369 Births Dec 1862 MANLY Ellen Bradford Yk 9b 86 Unrelated to Manleys except through marriage Hanrahan FreeBMD 1840 -1870 Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1843 HANRAHAN John Bradford Yk 23 179 Deaths Jun 1845 HANRAHAN Mary Ann Bradford Yk 23 96 Births Mar 1846 HANRAHAN Daniel Bartholomew Bradford Yk 23 137 Births Dec 1847 HANRAHAN Sarah Ann Bradford Y 23 115 Births Sep 1853 Hanrahan Female Pontefract 9c 74 Deaths Sep 1853 HANRAHAN Female Pontefract 9c 32 The city of Leeds has been a magnet for immigrants from County Mayo up until the present time. There is an Irish cultural center which continues to this day. Probably many in the 19th Century worked to buy passage to Canada , America and Australia – at least that is what is stated. I found my own group in Derbyshire working in the silk mills, a young woman at a hat factory, another married to a rag collector in Halifax . I traced the family of Dominick Manley (1805 – 1885) to the present day and found their occupation mirrored the age steam, the automobile and the information age. I called a descendent on the phone this year. There was no recollection of the past beyond a hundred years. Dominick Manley street seller, draper, tea salesman His son John Manley(1856 – 1934) railroad engine cleaner Son in-law (1875 -1957) pattern maker - automobile industry Son (1918 – 1986) engineer - automobile industry Below is a key piece of the history of the McGinleys. I have looked at the pardon list following O’Doherty’s Rebellion. O’Doherty was only 19 when he rebelled but his uncle Philem was on the pardon list and many others. Many Co. Donegal clans such as the Clerys, Devannys, Divers, Gallaghers, McDaids, McLoughlins, McNultys, O’Donnells, Sweeneys, and McGinnellys (the usual spelling there) are to be found in the Burrishoole and Achill Island areas in the west of Co. Mayo. It is recorded that these Donegal clans settled there under the leadership of Ruairí Ó Domhnaill/Rory O’Donnell from Lifford in Co. Donegal. This was just after the time of the Battle of Kinsale (1601), part of the Nine Years War. He was pardoned by the English, along with his followers, for rebellious acts against the English Crown. The first of the Donegal clans arrived there in 1602 (see Edward McLysaght). It would seem therefore that members of the McGinley clan returned home first before being 'moved on' to Connacht . Some folklore says that they stopped in the area on the way to or just returning from Kinsale, but this seems unlikely. It is also recorded that these Donegal names settled there during the Cromwell evictions when thousands of families were forced to leave Donegal. This was between 1654 and 1660. It looks like a two wave migration into the area. Like the case with the McGinnells of Westmeath, it seems likely that many McGinleys settled in Burrishoole and Achil because of the previous settlement in those parts by McGinleys. During the Ulster
rebellions under the leadership of the renowned
Cathaoir Ó Dochartaigh, the leader of the
O’Doherty clan, the McGinleys did their bit in
the war against the English. When the Irish side
was finally defeated, the English Government
issued a ‘1609 Pardon List’. The compilers
prepared the list in a very haphazard way,
showing little understanding of the Irish
language. They translated names into English as
it sounded to them at the time. The list
contained a substantial number of warriors who
fought under Cathaoir Ó Dochartaigh, many on the
list being ‘the chief of their name’, in other
words, clan leaders or at least ‘influential
members of their clans’. All the usual Donegal
clans are represented including McGinley. On the
list we find Tirloe McGinelik, the original
Irish form would be Toirealach Mag Fhionnghaile.
What happened to him we do not know. The Pardon
List of 1609 was used by the English for the
selection of those they wished to get rid of.
The ‘pardons’ were offered as a bribe to leave
the country. Those on the list were considered
to be dangerous rebels at the very least. What
followed after the 1609 Pardons, was very often
transportation to Sweden or further afield.
Sweden was a friend of England at the time and
needed new recruits in their wars with Denmark,
Poland and Russia . So, many of Irelands finest
young warriors and rebels were ‘shipped off’ to
serve a foreign army! Did our Toirealach go too? There were several Munnelly or varients in the area around Ardagh which Cecilia is believe to have came from. Unfortunately, it is a parish were we have no records until 1870. The 1796 Flax producers in Mayo lists these people. About the only thing I can add is that flax processing required a lot of water and I believe the Deel River which runs through Crossmolina to the area around Ardagh is the reason why we see so many in that area. Also, Lough Conn was in the area. Flax and linen went into a decline from 1800 to 1830 The area could not compete against linen from Germany or the mills that developed in Belfast and Leeds . Apparantly, the Irish hawkers in the mid 19th Century England were selling linen almost exclusively because of the well known association to Ireland . Eventually, cotton replaced linen and hawkers when into deline around the same time – as the section below indicates. For awhile I though the reason so many in my group were hawkers was because of an earlier connection to flax growing but I have discarded that idea. Munily Loughlin ArdaghMunily Patrick Ardagh Munily Widow Lackan Monnilly Edmond Crossmolina Monnilly James Ballynahaglish a neighbor of Ardagh Monnilly Thomas Ardagh Below is something interesting regarding the Irish in the Mid-Lands in the 19th Century which describes conditions in Bradford and its neighbors. One of my group living in Halifax in the 1860s as rag pickers and hawkers in one of the "foulds" or slum housing described below. http://chcc.arts.gla.ac.uk/Migration_and_Ethnicity/section01/mayhew.php ...Thaks again Paul.. And again from Paul Manley May 2011, Peter It has been a long time since we have been in touch. It looks like I have located the reference to Cecilia Manley’s marriage in Bradford using this site http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl For the search I put 1853 September quarter for Manley looking for marriages in Bradford and go this. MANLEY Cecily Bradford Y 9b 226 Then
searching for all marriages in Bradford the same
quarter and volume 9b page 226 there are the
only entries: CUNNINGHAM Peter Bradford
Y 9b226 If seem
that Thomas Handerkin may be Thomas Hanrahan If you are interested in ordering a copy of the certificate it can be done on-line and mailed to you from England . The cost this year is about 9.25 pounds. You can order on this site. https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp It is straightforward putting in the formation but here are some tips Check Yes for is the GRO reference number know For the year enter 1853 This must be her in the 1851 census living with someone named James Manley – probably a younger brother. Attached is the form. I am not sure about putting it on the web as if comes from Ancestry.com which may prohibit distribution. I would guess James is a brother. (( Note I have removed
the Hyperlinks within Paul's email, they go to
Ancestry.com. Should you wish further research go
to their site...Peter))
I am doubtful we can make a connection back to an exact location in Co Mayo. There are gaps in the Ballina and Crossmolina baptism from 1837-40. Near by areas are missing even more. Take care
Peter. Let’s stay in touch. |
